Question: Do you have proof there is or ever was scientifically a god. I am an atheist so I'm just curious.
Answer from : Mail me your watch. I will take it apart and return it to you. Then you can decide if you believe the odds of a bunch of parts coming together in a functional assembly are more probable, statistically speaking, if assembled by a greater intelligence (a watch maker) or if you still believe in random chance - in which case you will just put them in a ziplock bag and shake them in hopes of a watch coming together.
We both know that you will chose the greater intelligence. Hence, the odds of "random chance" are just too great to be believed. So if the greater intelligence who assembled the parts of our universe is not God who is he?
Well that's how http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/ answered the question. Now let us discuss the answer...
This is basically a straw-man. The problem here is that the Christian web site assumes that atheists like me believe that the universe sprang up from random chance.
The universe is not a product of..er…random chance. There are what we know as physical constrains in Nature. You guys call it as “natural laws” but I like to call them as regularities in nature.
How two molecules of hydrogen and a molecule of oxygen makes water, or gravity, Boyle’s Law, inertia…those are regularities I’m talking about. These “laws” doesn’t necessary involves an intelligence.
Now take a look on the Christian demonstration…It seems he forgotten that the watch…or the parts of the watch were all made from pre-existing materials, right? So why is he comparing that to the Universe? The universe…well as Christian believed it was created ex nihilo. So statistically speaking, can this Christian give me a good example of a created thing that came directly from nothing…no pre-existing material whatsoever?
Now, can you tell me the odds of creating something tangible from nothing?
If I give this Christian guy a ziplock bag containing nothing, can he create a Bible out of it?
So the odds are slimmer compare for something that can emerge due to unintelligent regularities. Come on, just look at the beach, or a snowflake and you can see how nature create an illusion of design because of its regularities.
Now let us talk about the empty explanation of the so-called "Don Quixote Syndrome".
Most atheists have what I call the Don Quixote Syndrome. Let me explain. Cervantes wrote a book about Don Quixote a long time ago. Don Quixote would attack windmills as if they were his enemies. Of course a windmill is nobody's enemy. If what the atheist believes is REALLY his belief, then he would leave people like me alone. After all, if God did not exist, He and His followers would be no enemy to the atheist. We'd just be deluded people. Therefore IF the atheist REALLY believes there is no God and the fool attacks a Christian, then he has the Don Quixote Syndrome because the Christian is not his enemy. Nevertheless, God is real and THAT is why atheists have all these organizations and debates to "prove" that God does not exist. Atheist reader, if you would just be true to what you purport to believe, then you wouldn't have the Don Quixote Syndrome.
My old pastor once ministered to an old atheist who had been a card-carrying atheist for decades--but as he laid on his death bed, he wanted a pastor. I don't know if he got saved or not. When it's time to die, many atheists are understandably uneasy and those that aren't should be terrified.
Is this the best that Jesus can offer?
Anyway, Christians always assume that we are attacking them...thus the so-called "Don Quixote Syndrome", but atheists like me are not attacking them personaly (unless they attack me first). What we are "attacking" or should I say exposing are the misinformation that they are trying to proclaim.
You see, unlike Don Quixote, our enemies are real...and they are the following: Superstition, ignorance, fear and that is the tripod that supports religion like Christianity.
Fear in death is one of the issue...really...just look at the Christians own post, "When it's time to die, many atheists are understandably uneasy and those that aren't should be terrified." See...
These Christian use death to sell their…er…salvation, their belief system. Then enters superstition and ignorance. Christians would first propagate a lie and harmonize it with their world-view. Superstition comes first and to make these false notions effective, they have to promote ignorance. Now, in order to shock their adherents from questioning those superstition-nonsense, they have to scare the wit of the believers with things like judgment, hell and the devil. It’s really a vicious cycle.
Simple isn't it: Believe God and Jesus or you'll BURN IN HELL!!!! You call that something worthwhile to believe?
Now let us answer some of David J. Stewart's way of "stumping an atheist"?
Ask an atheist if he or she believes in the existence of aliens? If they answer, "no," then ask them how do they know that? Have they gone to all the other galaxies throughout the universe? The truth is that no atheist can reasonably deny the existence of alien life. To do so would be utter ignorance. If an atheist answers, "yes," then they have contradicted their claim that there is no God. Is not God an Alien? By every definition of the word, God is an alien, i.e., He is not of this earth. For an atheist to profess believe is alien life, while simultaneously denying the existence of God, is utter hypocrisy and foolishness.
So what do aliens have to do with the Christian god? I don't know but this is quite funny. The problem here is that aliens are not supernatural beings. We can believe aliens the same way that we can believe that there are living thing beneath those glaciers in the South Pole.
Now do I need to go around the universe to prove that aliens exist? Not really...in the first place I'm not proving my believe in alien beings...it is not a faith. I might say that I believe that alien beings exist because there is nothing in the Universe that might prevent that for happening. Are biochemical reactions can only take place here on Earth? Are carbon and other biological chemicals can only be found in this planet? If you say yes...well...have you gone to all the other galaxies throughout the universe @ Mr.David J. Stewart? Hey it's your call...try proving it.
Is God an alien being? Oh...is David J. Stewart a member of the Raelien? Hahahaha!
As I have said, comparing God with aliens is like comparing a dog to a petunia. Aliens are not supernatural in nature. Also, alien beings doesn't have the so-called "divine attributes". Aliens are not omnipotent nor omniscient...Aliens are just the same as the different life form you can see in our planet - of course, they're just living outside planet Earth. Oh and by the way, if we said that God is outside our planet, then what happened on his divine omnipresence? I thought God is everywhere @ Mr. Stewart?
Gosh...Is this the best argument Jesus Is Savior.com can offer?
